well this sucks, i figure out where to get the hacks, and now they dont work ! lol. guess ill have to figure it out myself. i think i have a clue though. i would appreciate anyone helping me to understand how they USED to work so i can work on making them work again. I have a colleague who is a programmer for casino gaming machines, maybee he can help me. my background is in atm / credit card machines and 3des ( triple digital encryption systems )